I think there is a very strong possibility that the 'moral supremacy' of establishment types is soon going to be seen for the sham it is.

Not much has changed has it regarding the "ruling classes" collusion with the media in telling us what they want us to know. Look at how the media report "global warming" and follow hook line and sinker that it is our fault that everybody will fry to death in the coming decades. It is on other subjects too. Take EDL/UAF marches/countermarches. EDL are always called "far-right" whereas UAF are never referred to as "far-left". A few years ago the media reported that the EDL caused riots around London. However, on youtube there was a clip that clearly showed that UAF were the instigators of any trouble. But as Cameron has signed up as a supporter of UAF (he is so thick that he clearly doesn't realise that Unite Against Facism wants to prevent free speech), you can bet that you will not hear Cameron speaking out against UAF violence.

PS. I am not a supporter of EDL but believe they have the right to march.

The PTB inhabit every party....and the wannabe PTB is the same, waiting for their chance at the control-panel & its associated trough.
The biggest disadvantage for any PTB member, current or would-be, is to speak what used to be the King's English which sets one up as a toff & thus an enemy no matter what the merit.
Hence the dumbing down, as in all other spheres, of the language. So powerful is this yen for the glottal stop & an Estuary accent that even younger Royalty, the epitome of the Establishment is affected...and affected is the right word. Lord knows what Granny thinks about that...innit.

Im not sure that relying on the communist press is any more accurate than the modern media, I still dont think there was the outrage reported, my paternal grandfather was from the Elephant and castle and my maternal was from NW10 near the Rootes factory and gasworks and neither wanted to shelter in the underground "like rats" I doubt it was realistic to provide workable deep shelters for all, in war you have to protect what is most important first and the government and factories need to be protected first. Were the well known tunnels in Liverpool put to shelter use? ive not read so, we need to look at the whole urban population not just one, left wing section of the capitol! From what I had heard the greatest asset after the English channel was Churchill, hence the various plots the Nazis made to kidnap or kill him.
As for the communists wanting to sue for peace with Hitler that is a crock, it suited the communists 100% to have the UK fighting their only threat in the world! The yanks were in Stalins pocket, indeed Churchill had looked at invading the USSR to drive it out of Europe. The blight of communism is the real threat and has been for a century, I suspect the unseen hand behind the EU is theirs.

This is perhaps nothing new - the Tudors did a good number on the last Plantagenet King, Richard III.

The Romans were fond of rewriting history, as it were.

Alas, I think, that there is a difference, post WWII the authorities - isn't the word they use today.......er redacted the bits of the thread that they knew damn well should not be acclaimed or remembered - to me that is censorship.

For forty years, the press have not been able to discuss la situation actuelle concerning the EU - same difference Richard.

Censorship.

I think the difference is that activities such as smoking and paying bills (BBC tax) are individual things, with no organised political constituency. The Poll Tax riots, however, were politically motivated and organised ... as indeed was the shelter campaign. There is some merit here in asking whether single issue groups actually work, or whether you need an overarching political grouping to achieve anything. We perhaps need an portmanteau "anti-government" movement, which can then adopt individual issues as they arise.

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People Power even worked in Berlin in 1943 - the Rosenstrasse Protest.

Indeed. I don't know why it is presented as surprising. Always has happened - always will. Here is a very good example on youtube - a massacre of Americans in Vietnam turned into a victory by the spin doctors. Skip the early part describing the ambush if you want - the most telling political comment is at the end. And it's exactly the same message as Dr North presents here...

Battle of Ong Thahn